October 11, 2003 - CNN: Author says Shrivers "most liberal in the Kennedy clan"

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Author says Shrivers "most liberal in the Kennedy clan"





Arnold Schwarzenegger stands with wife Maria Shriver and her parents, Sargent and Eunice Shriver, as they celebrate his win in the California governor recall election at the Century Plaza Hotel in Los Angeles, Oct. 7, 2003


Read and comment on this interview from CNN with Thomas Maier, author of "The Kennedys: America's Emerald Kings," on the role of Maria Shriver in the election of Arnold Schwarzenegger in the California gubernatorial recall race and the role of the Shriver family in the Kennedy clan:
"Politically, (the Shrivers are) the most liberal in the Kennedy clan. Sargent Shriver was the founder of the Peace Corps, and Eunice Shriver is one of the most distinguished in the family with Special Olympics and other notable things. But in times of election, the Kennedys do rally. The whole sense of the Kennedy clan, as they themselves call it, stresses the whole sense of family. I think it's a big part of the Kennedy story. And I think they were there at the important moments for Arnold in this election."
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Author: Recall 'a double-edged sword for Maria Shriver'*

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Author: Recall 'a double-edged sword for Maria Shriver'

Saturday, October 11, 2003 Posted: 9:05 PM EDT (0105 GMT)

Author Thomas Maier: "I think a big part of Arnold's win in California was the appeal of the Kennedy family."

(CNN) -- In a new book, historian Thomas Maier discusses the role that women of the Kennedy family continue to play in U.S. policy-making. CNN correspondent Renay San Miguel spoke with Maier about his book "The Kennedys: America's Emerald Kings", and the influence of Maria Shriver, wife of Arnold Schwarzenegger and daughter of Eunice Kennedy Shriver, on the California gubernatorial recall race.

SAN MIGUEL: From what you've seen from the campaign, is Maria Shriver performing the role well so far?

MAIER: Yes, I think a big part of Arnold's win in California was the appeal of the Kennedy family. I think it's very important to note that there were a number of immigrants who voted for Arnold in this election. I think it harkens back to the Kennedy legacy of immigration in this country.

SAN MIGUEL: I'm thinking specifically about the groping allegations and how much having her by his side meant. He even thanked her on the election night, admitting that there were some people who may not have voted for him if it hadn't been for her. What do you think about that?

MAIER: Right. I think it's been a double-edged sword for Maria Shriver. Her generation of Kennedys, particularly the women, have been the leaders in the family. The subtitle of my book, "America's Emerald Kings", comes back to the Irish notion [of] the chieftains, and [they] usually [have] been the men. In this generation it has been the women as the leaders: Caroline Kennedy, Jean Kennedy Smith, and Maria in her own right as a distinguished journalist. On the flip side of it, she's being asked as the other women have been asked in the past to stand by her man. And I think that was a difficult situation for her.

SAN MIGUEL: Schwarzenegger was thought to be a moderate Republican. Some of his critics have said he's a Republican in name only. He is socially a little more moderate than some Republicans. [Is there] Shriver's influence in that?

MAIER: I think so. A big part of the Kennedy legacy is immigration. I think many of the problems and many of the questions that Arnold are going to face as governor will have to do with immigration. I think it was very notable on Wednesday, after the election, Senator Ted Kennedy said that Arnold's election in California was proof positive that we live in a nation of immigrants. Not everybody may understand what the connection there is but it has to do with the book JFK wrote in 1958, "A Nation of Immigrants". And that led to the 1965 Immigration Act that opened up the door in this country to many of the new immigrants we see. So, a lot of this goes back to the Kennedy legacy.

SAN MIGUEL: What about the Shriver family, Maria's parents, Eunice and Sargent. They have their own little subplot, if you will, in the Kennedy legacy?

MAIER: They absolutely do. Politically, they're the most liberal in the Kennedy clan. Sargent Shriver was the founder of the Peace Corps, and Eunice Shriver is one of the most distinguished in the family with Special Olympics and other notable things. But in times of election, the Kennedys do rally. The whole sense of the Kennedy clan, as they themselves call it, stresses the whole sense of family. I think it's a big part of the Kennedy story. And I think they were there at the important moments for Arnold in this election.



October 8, 2003 - Maria Shriver becomes First Lady of California





Arnold Schwarzenegger stands with wife Maria Shriver and her parents, Sargent and Eunice Shriver, as they celebrate his win in the California governor recall election at the Century Plaza Hotel in Los Angeles, Oct. 7, 2003


Read and comment on this story from the Sydney Morning Herald on October 8, 2003 about Maria Shriver, daugher of Peace Corps Founding Director Sargent Shriver, who with the election of her husband Arnold Schwarzenegger becomes First Lady of California after helping to usher her Republican husband into the governor's office. The telegenic and politically savvy Ms Shriver has been his secret weapon, campaigning vigorously for him and coming to his defence after allegations that he had a history of groping and humiliating women during his 30-year Hollywood career.

However, she is perhaps best known for her bloodlines. Her mother, Eunice Kennedy Shriver, is the sister of the assassinated president John F. Kennedy and slain senator and presidential candidate Robert Kennedy. Her father, Sargent Shriver, also had a career in politics, standing for vice-president with George McGovern in 1972 and founding the Peace Corps. Read the story at:


Shriver known for her political bloodlines*

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Shriver known for her political bloodlines

October 9, 2003

Maria Shriver casts her ballot at a polling booth in Los Angeles. Photo: AFP

Once a princess in the Democratic Party's royal family, the Kennedy clan, Maria Shriver becomes First Lady of California after helping to usher her Republican husband into the governor's office.

With the election of the bodybuilder turned-actor turned-politician Arnold Schwarzenegger to the state's top job, Ms Shriver, his wife of 17 years, will take up a key role at his side. It is one she admits not relishing.

"I tried to find somebody who would take me as far away from the political world as I possibly could," Ms Shriver said on the Oprah Winfrey show in August, shortly after Mr Schwarzenegger announced he would stand.

But, once the campaign was in motion, Ms Shriver, a television reporter, was fully on board.

The telegenic and politically savvy Ms Shriver has been his secret weapon, campaigning vigorously for him and coming to his defence after allegations that he had a history of groping and humiliating women during his 30-year Hollywood career.

Born on November 6, 1955, Ms Shriver met the then champion bodybuilder when she was 21 and a budding journalist. She is now national correspondent and a sometime anchor for the NBC television network.

However, she is perhaps best known for her bloodlines. Her mother, Eunice Kennedy Shriver, is the sister of the assassinated president John F. Kennedy and slain senator and presidential candidate Robert Kennedy. Her uncle and several of her cousins remain in the family business.

Her uncle, Ted Kennedy, is a powerful senator for Massachusetts and her cousin Patrick Kennedy is a congressman from Rhode Island state. Another cousin served as lieutenant-governor of Maryland and speculation was rampant that John F. Kennedy jnr would enter public life before he died in a plane crash in 1999.

Her father, Sargent Shriver, also had a career in politics, standing for vice-president with George McGovern in 1972 and founding the Peace Corps.

Ms Shriver earned a bachelor's degree from Georgetown University in 1977. Soon afterwards she met Mr Schwarzenegger. They wed near her family compound in Hyannis, Massachusetts, in May 1986. They have two boys and two girls.

Ms Shriver, who took unpaid leave from her job at NBC to campaign for her husband, said she hoped to return to work, even with her new duties.

A spokeswoman for NBC said she would be welcome.

"If necessary . . . we will work with her to determine what types of stories are appropriate for her to cover as a correspondent and anchor at NBC News," she said.



October 4, 2003 - Maria Shriver defends her husband





Read and comment on this story from the Philadelphia Daily News on October 4, 2003 that Maria Shriver, duagher of Peace Corps founding Director Sargent Shriver went to a Republican women's club in California's ultra-conservative Orange County to defend embattled husband Arnold Schwarzenegger:
"He's honest, he's sensitive, he's sincere," she told reporters after the speech. "And he is gracious with every bone in his body. I have met thousands and thousands of women who have come up to me and said they have worked with him, they have worked for him, alongside him and he has been an extraordinary gentleman."
Clearly, the world has changed since JFK's extramarital affairs with Marilyn Monroe and other women were hushed up from the American people. Something else that's different - while matriarch Rose and Jackie Kennedy stood by their philandering husbands, they did so in silence. Read the story at:

Shriver no mope over Arnold the grope*

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Shriver no mope over Arnold the grope
Guv candidate's wife staunchly defends him despite sexual-abuse charges

By WILLIAM BUNCH
bunchw@phillynews.com

IN WHAT IS becoming an timeworn political tradition in America, a Kennedy woman stood by her man yesterday - but with some new twists.

Maria Shriver - the niece of Democratic icons Ted, Bobby, and John F. Kennedy - went to a Republican women's club in California's ultra-conservative Orange County to defend embattled husband Arnold Schwarzenegger.

And Schwarzenegger stands accused of loutish behavior that might make his womanizing Kennedy in-laws blush - unwanted groping and fondling at least a half-dozen women over the last three decades.

And just as the front-running California recall gubernatorial candidate was apologizing for that, new charges surfaced Thursday night that he once expressed admiration for Adolf Hitler.

None of that stopped Shriver - on leave from her job as an NBC News correspondent to campaign for her movie-star husband - from defending Schwarzenegger, with the state's freak-show recall election just four days away.

"I wouldn't be standing here if this man weren't an A-plus human being," she said.

"I wouldn't be taking my time, I wouldn't have left my job that I love, I wouldn't be doing any of this if I didn't believe in this man."

Shriver told the women's group that Schwarzenegger - who conceded after an expose in the Los Angeles Times that he'd been a lout at times, saying "where there's smoke there's fire" - was "courageous" for apologizing.

"He's honest, he's sensitive, he's sincere," she told reporters after the speech. "And he is gracious with every bone in his body. I have met thousands and thousands of women who have come up to me and said they have worked with him, they have worked for him, alongside him and he has been an extraordinary gentleman."

If the polls are correct, Shriver's husband of 17 years could be California's new governor by next week. The latest surveys show that a majority of voters favor ousting Democratic Gov. Gray Davis in a recall election fueled by a voter revolt over the state's budget and energy problems.

The same polls show that Schwarzenegger, a fiscally conservative Republican with liberal social views, has a solid lead over another Democrat, Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamonte, and the rest of a large field of candidates.

Clearly, the world has changed since JFK's extramarital affairs with Marilyn Monroe and other women were hushed up from the American people. Today, the report that Schwarzenegger grabbed the breasts of three women, the buttocks of another, and made sexually crude comments seems to have had little impact on his standing in the race.

Something else that's different - while matriarch Rose and Jackie Kennedy stood by their philandering husbands, they did so in silence. But Shriver took the offensive, aggressively defending Schwarzenegger against the allegations of boorish behavior.

"Nothing hurts, because I know the man that I'm married to," said Shriver, the daughter of Eunice Kennedy and former Peace Corps chief Sargent Shriver. "Has he said and done everything absolutely [right] 100 percent of the time? No. But I don't know anybody on the planet, male or female, who's led a perfect life..."

Shriver also had seemingly harsh words for her own profession as she refused to address the specifics in the Times article.

"I'm not going to go down this road, because I don't believe in gutter politics, and I don't believe in gutter journalism," she said. "So I think you can keep asking me that question, but you're not going to get a response from me because I believe in taking the high road."

That didn't stop the anti-Schwarzenegger drumbeats from pounding louder yesterday. A coalition of women's groups met at the Feminist Majority offices in Beverly Hills to unveil an anti-Schwarzenegger ad campaign and introduce a former TV network intern who said the gubernatorial candidate groped her when she showed him around a sound stage 25 years ago.

Also, radio psychologist Dr. Joy Browne told "Inside Edition" yesterday that Schwarzenegger groped her ankles and knees during an interview in the 1970s.

But Schwarzenegger was greeted by cheering crowds as he continued a bus tour across the state. "He can grope me!" one woman shouted at a campaign stop in Santa Clarita. Some supporters held signs reading: "Gray Davis groped me...While reaching for my wallet."
Daily News wire services contributed to this report.



September 23, 2003 - Maria Shriver's Magic Battles Schwarzenegger's Gender Gap





Read and comment on this story from Reuters on September 23, 2003 about Maria Shriver, daughter of Peace Corps founding Director Sargent Shriver, who is spreading Kennedy magic into Republican Arnold Schwarzenegger's bid to become governor of California. Niece of slain President John Kennedy, Shriver initially did not want her husband to run in the unprecedented Oct. 7 recall election. Now the television newscaster is fully on board and stepping up public appearances to help overcome Schwarzenegger's difficulty winning over women voters. Read the story at:

Maria's Magic Battles Schwarzenegger's Gender Gap*

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Maria's Magic Battles Schwarzenegger's Gender Gap

Tue September 23, 2003 06:36 PM ET
By Adam Tanner

SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Maria Shriver is spreading Kennedy magic into Republican Arnold Schwarzenegger's bid to become governor of California.

Niece of slain President John Kennedy, Shriver initially did not want her husband to run in the unprecedented Oct. 7 recall election. Now the television newscaster is fully on board and stepping up public appearances to help overcome Schwarzenegger's difficulty winning over women voters.

"Listen, if you don't vote for Arnold, it's totally cool with me, because I'll get him back full time and the kids will get him back full time," the Democrat Shriver said in a speech in San Francisco, referring to their four school-aged children.

"But it will be the state's loss. It will be your loss, because people could not see beyond the labels, couldn't see beyond the body, couldn't see beyond the accent."

Shriver brings remarkable poise and experience for a first-time political wife to a neophyte candidate. As a five-year-old girl in 1960, she handed out leaflets for uncle John Kennedy and in 1972 worked on the failed campaign of her father, Sargent Shriver, to become vice president.

"I was very aware of what a campaign entailed, which is why I didn't want him to run, Hello!" she said to laughter at a lunchtime audience of the Commonwealth Club.

"It was like 'let me tell you exactly how this is going to go', and it pretty much has gone exactly how I told him it would go," she said. "But anybody who has a husband knows you cannot tell them these things, they have to experience it for themselves."

GENDER GAP

Although Schwarzenegger has been either first or second in polls among those hoping to replace Governor Gray Davis, the actor has faced embarrassing revelations about past statements on sex and drugs and in turn a gender gap among women voters.

Thus arises the need for a little Maria magic on the campaign trail, such as telling the crowd that Schwarzenegger embodies the Kennedy virtues, even if not a Democrat. She quoted her grandmother, Rose Kennedy, as saying the greatest calling was to give to one's country.

"Arnold doesn't need this job, lord knows," Shriver said. "He is giving back to a country he feels indebted to. So in terms of that being the Kennedy legacy, he's right up there with a lot of other great people."

She praised Schwarzenegger's personal achievements, his discipline, determination, compassion, optimism and other attributes she said would prove valuable in Sacramento.

Wearing high-heels, a svelte business jacket and skirt -- her husband has said he hates pants on a woman -- Shriver also brings some of her own star power to appearances as a familiar face on television news. Not to mention some political humor that wowed Tuesday's crowd.

"You can decide in these final two weeks to listen to people who have never met Arnold, who have never sat down to see what's behind the body, what's behind the accent," Shriver said. "Or you can listen to me. Your choice."



September 10, 2003 - Eunice Kennedy Shriver backs Republican Schwarzenegger





Founding Director Sargent Shirver is shown on the left at the Press Conference which PCOL attended. Eunice Shriver Kennedy, the founder of Special Olympics is shown in the Center. Timothy P. Shriver, president and CEO of Special Olympics, is shown on the right. His Excellency Yang Jiechi, ambassador of the People's Republic of China to the United States, is shown second from the right.


Read and comment on this story on September 10, 2003 from the Washington Post that, Eunice Kennedy Shriver, wife of Peace Corps Founding Director Sargent Shriver, came out on Wednesday to back her son-in-law, Arnold Schwarzenegger, as California governor -- even though her famous Democratic family has long battled Republicans. "I think he'd be a very good governor. He's been committed to people all his life, since the day he first arrived here, he's been a success with people," Shriver, 82, told reporters before Schwarzenegger met with experts on education policy. Read the story at:

Kennedy Matriarch Backs Republican Schwarzenegger*

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Kennedy Matriarch Backs Republican Schwarzenegger

Reuters

Wednesday, September 10, 2003; 8:17 PM

By Michael Kahn

SAN JOSE, Calif. (Reuters) - A Kennedy has finally found a Republican to vote for.


President John F. Kennedy's sister, Eunice Kennedy Shriver, came out on Wednesday to back her son-in-law, Arnold Schwarzenegger, as California governor -- even though her famous Democratic family has long battled Republicans.

"I think he'd be a very good governor. He's been committed to people all his life, since the day he first arrived here, he's been a success with people," Shriver, 82, told reporters before Schwarzenegger met with experts on education policy.

Shriver is the mother of Maria Shriver, Schwarzenegger's television newscaster wife who just this week kicked off solo campaigning for the bodybuilder-turned-actor's run for governor.

"I think he'd be a very good governor because he is interested in all of these kind subjects, particularly subjects that pertain to children," the elder Kennedy said in her first public appearance of the campaign.

Shriver's brother won the presidency by defeating California Republican Richard Nixon in 1960.

Schwarzenegger is running in a special Oct. 7 recall election against Gov. Gray Davis, who is unpopular for his handling of state finances and cool personal style. A second question on the ballot lists 135 replacement candidates.

Davis, however, could get a boost this weekend when former President Bill Clinton makes his first appearance in Los Angeles with the governor on Sunday during a trip aimed at helping beat the recall.

The latest polls show Schwarzenegger trailing Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante, a Democrat who is running in defiance of Davis, with whom he does not get along.

CHALLENGE FROM THE RIGHT

Schwarzenegger has also lost Republican support to state Sen. Tom McClintock, who is trailing in the polls but has sparked concern that he could split the Republican vote and hand the election to Bustamante.

McClintock, who has tallied about 15 percent support in the latest polls, has said he has no plans to drop out. Meanwhile Schwarzenegger told reporters he could "absolutely" win even if his fellow Republican stayed in the race.

"But you always want to make it easy for yourself," he said when asked about McClintock.

Any Democratic support could also help the actor erode Bustamante's lead, and education is an issue that may help boost his support with women. He is less popular with women than with men, according to polls.

During the news conference Schwarzenegger, who pointed out he has long been active in educational issues, offered mainly broad proposals to fix an education system he said was failing students in the nation's most populous state.

Main themes included finding ways to give local school districts more control over decisions and convincing qualified teachers to work in inner-city schools. School prayer should be left up to each individual school, Schwarzenegger added.

He also said he was against private-school vouchers but said students should have the choice to change to another public or charter school if their current one was failing.

"We have to stop Sacramento from being the school bully," Schwarzenegger said. "If you leave control with the locals they know what is best to do with the schools."

Schwarzenegger's bid could also receive a boost from popular former Los Angeles Mayor Richard Riordan, who made his first appearance with the actor on the campaign trail. "Arnold is a true leader who likes to learn," said Riordan, who will serve as co-chairman of Schwarzenegger's education team.



August 9, 2003 - Shrivers and Kennedys mum on Arnold





Caption: Actor Arnold Schwarzenegger (L) gives a thumbs up as he is joined by his wife Maria Shriver (C-R) after he filed his declaration of candidacy papers for the California gubernatorial recall election at the Los Angeles County Registrar's Office in Norwalk, California. Maria Shriver is the daughter of Peace Corps Founding Director Sargent Shriver and has a long history of public service, like everyone in her family. (AFP/Hector Mata)


Read and comment on this story from the Boston Globe on August 9, 2003 about Arnold Schwarzenegger's run for governor of California and the attitude of the Kennedy clan towards his canidacy. When Mr. Schwarzenegger married Maria Shriver in 1986, he joined a family dedicated to public service. The patriarch, Sargent Shriver, who served as George McGovern's running mate in the 1972 presidential election, founded the Peace Corps in 1961. He and his wife, Eunice Kennedy Shriver - the younger sister of John F. Kennedy - founded the Special Olympics, which their son Tim now runs. Mark Shriver is the vice-president of Save the Children. Two more sons are involved in other philanthropic ventures. Read the story at:

Kennedys mum on Arnold*

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Kennedys mum on Arnold

By SIMON HOUPT
From Saturday's Globe and Mail

New York — Two fundamental principles have driven the Kennedy clan's success in the United States ever since Joe Kennedy's father, P. J., became the Democratic ward boss for East Boston: family and liberal politics.

Arnold Schwarzenegger's run for governor of California has sent those principles on a high-profile collision course.

So far, the urge to uphold family unity is winning the battle, and few Kennedys are speaking publicly about the matter.

Senator Edward Kennedy issued a statement that read: "I like and respect Arnold, and I've been impressed with his efforts to promote after-school education in California and his willingness to come to Congress and the administration to fight for that program. But I'm a Democrat, and I don't support the recall effort."

When Mr. Schwarzenegger married Maria Shriver in 1986, he joined a family dedicated to public service.

The patriarch, Sargent Shriver, who served as George McGovern's running mate in the 1972 presidential election, founded the Peace Corps in 1961. He and his wife, Eunice Kennedy Shriver - the younger sister of John F. Kennedy - founded the Special Olympics, which their son Tim now runs. Mark Shriver is the vice-president of Save the Children. Two more sons are involved in other philanthropic ventures.

The silence that has descended upon the clan suggests the Kennedys may see Mr. Schwarzenegger's bid as a smirch on their good name.

Michael Shriver would not comment yesterday, though he told The Washington Post earlier: "I'm not talking. He [Mr. Schwarzenegger] is my brother-in-law and I'm supporting him and that's all."

While they are usually voluble over the accomplishments of family members, they refrain from speaking when confronted with scandal, such as the rape accusation against William Kennedy Smith in the spring of 1991 and Michael Kennedy's affair with an underage babysitter that came to light in 1997.

In a February, 2002, on-line chat to promote his movie Collateral Damage, Mr. Schwarzenegger praised his father-in-law as a "powerful force to get those programs done.



Alongside his wife Maria Shriver, actor Arnold Schwarzenegger speaks to reporters after he filed his candidate papers for governor of California at the Los Angeles Registrar's office in Norwalk, August 9, 2003. Schwarzenegger made his candidacy official, telling chanting supporters he would be 'the people's governor.' The Austrian-born action film star and political novice, a Republican, has quickly come to be regarded as the front-runner in the October 7 election to replace the unpopular Democrat Gray Davis. Photo by Jim Ruymen/Reuters

Naturally, when you meet people like that and they have such a great political background and know so much about it, you learn a lot from it."

He added: "I think, you know, I had an interest in giving back to the country anyway. But I think that being with this family definitely has a very big impact on me."

Still, Laurence Leamer, the author of two Kennedy biographies including the forthcoming Sons of Camelot, said of Mr. Schwarzenegger's bid: "This wasn't the Kennedy family getting together in a council and deciding who's going to run next, that's for sure."

But Mr. Leamer pointed out that there are many political stripes on the Kennedy tiger.

"If you look at the political spectrum of the Kennedys, you go on the right from Doug Kennedy, who's a libertarian, to Ted Kennedy on the left, who's a liberal Democrat - and actually Arnold is right in the middle of that as a liberal Republican."

And despite his official party affiliation, Mr. Schwarzenegger may not be too different from his in-laws.

A March, 2001, article in Premiere magazine included various accounts of the star groping women while making and promoting his films.

The article's primary allegation was that the Terminator actor was able to use his power in Hollywood to terminate negative press. No longer.

Yesterday, as Mr. Schwarzenegger faced tough questions during his first TV interviews with journalists rather than talk-show hosts, he looked out of his depth.

He was unable to offer specific ideas for rescuing the California economy except to suggest that leadership is needed.

"Leadership means that you set goals for yourself, as I have always done in my life, go after those goals and accomplish them," he said during an interview with Matt Lauer on the Today Show.

Asked twice by Mr. Lauer whether he would release his tax returns to the press, Mr. Schwarzenegger said he was unable to hear the question.

He said the same thing when asked for his position on California's controversial law regarding paid family leave, against which some businesses have protested for its cost to their bottom lines.

When Mr. Lauer repeated the question, Mr. Schwarzenegger hesitantly said he would have to think about the issue.

"I would have to get into that, because as you know I'm very much for families - I'm very much for children and children's issues," he said.

To date, Mr. Schwarzenegger's chief political achievement has been creating Proposition 49, an after-school funding program that passed last November.




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